Click-Lock. Hello, I need some advice with a flooring problem please, I am confident with some DIY jobs but this is outside of my experience. Water-Based Adhesive. Get great value and great versatility with our range of chipboard and oriented strand board (OSB). I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. Electric Underfloor Heating. Write a review. Laying a floor? Using Chipboard flooring panels? Take a look at how to use our CaberFix D4 glue in conjunction with CaberDek panels. 22mm Flooring Chipboard 8x2. Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by nigel9097, Apr 14, 2014. Net-Coat Yellow-Plated. 30 day money back guarantee. Many would just lay 6mm for something like tiling, but then they're not trying to retain levels as in your case. 79 Inc Vat. I am also concerned by the mention of a lead water main. I got 2400mm x 600mm x 18mm T&G chipboards, so: 1. £ 5. SKU: 36HB002. Was £14. 10 screws, but Screwfix only seem to supply up to no. murrmac, Jun 7, 2008. OSB. You must leave at least 50mm, preferably 100mm or more of clearance between the insulation and the board and the eaves and ensure the soffits allow air flow through them. 2) The surface must be clean and free of grit/dirt. Currently in Stock. The depth seems to be around 22mm. Flange Head with Reinforced Neck. also helps stop squeaking (so do mousetraps). 2-Part Epoxy Adhesive Tubes. For flooring, we stock both 22mm and. In answer to your question, if you do decide to replace the floor then you can go near the the wall as poss and I’d suggest putting some noggins to support the edges of the floorboards. Which of theses options does in make most sense to go with : 1) 18mm chipboard + simple foam underlay +12mm laminate. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. com. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1. is he a real joiner ?after 2 weeks in the elements go and have a look at the joints and the cut edges and see how much they swell up. All you then need to do is to screw an additional timber - say, 3x2 - against the exposed joist to 'widen' it and allow your new floor (which will have Chipboard flooring has T&G-type edges which makes it very solid at its joints - use adhesive such as polyurethane along all joints (expands slightly as it cures) and these boards won't move again. 2x2 would be ok for that area, 4x2 is overkill. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that #2 is the case. priming approx £25 15kg sets in 5 hrs, alternatively. 5m², shop the range by colour or the board thickness required for an authentic look at competitive prices. Supplied in a handy tub. Soudal Parquet Flooring Adhesive 1kg (425KV) compare. SKIP20A P5 CHIPBOARD FLOOR 22X2400X600MM. For Interior & Exterior Use. Save £6. The Tri-Lock threadform offers the benefit of a single and a twin thread in one providing a straight and balanced start, while the coarse single thread ensures boards are clamped fast and firmly and will not pull apart under load. com. Estwing used to make a good one, very ridged and strong and will take lots of abuse. They come in a wide selection of types, thicknesses, sizes and designs. Recently bought a solid oak floor that is 18mm and 83mm wide that comes in various lengths 300mm to 1200mm. Jord86, Nov 22, 2021. My current ideas are. make up a diluted solution of PVA - add 30% water - and keep brushing this well in to each board joint. com. Andrew Morris likes this. No problems at all. Click & Collect. 52 per bag (Inc. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Electricians' Talk > Lifting Chipboard Floors. 5mm) flooring ply is used in this situation, or if floors are very uneven, maybe go up to 9mm and overboard the current floorboards. Dawsy New Member. £15. can anyone help - I am about to refit my kitchen and want to lay floor tiles on a floating t&g chipboard floor laid over plastic menbrane then concrete. The floorboards aren't too bad, and I figure hammering them down should keep and un-evenness/movement to an absolute minimum. Suitable for Domestic & Commercial Use. . theguildmaster New Member. Quantity. £9. Click & Collect. Inc. yep the old ways have nearly gone. Wirox-coated. Is it possible to make a decent join into half a T & G floor. Drywall screws are the wrong screws to be using for flooring, you want proper full threaded chipboard screws, or Spax flooring screws. Pick a noisy joint and mark a line about 25mm from the joint edge on either side. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard Flooring. I had a substantial leak in my 1st floor flat. com. 40. rcplumber New Member. Trying to install approx 45 sq yds of 3/4" hardwood strip flooring onto a 3/4" chipboard floor on wood joists at 16" centres. is she the queen of the screwfix trade counter , she doesn't seem that nice , might be wrong edmund, Aug 30, 2012 #10. We have recently erected an extension and knocked through from the existing house. Whilst the timbers are at 400mm centres i'll need to use more sheets if it isnecessary. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. 5 Boards 1. Remove all boxing and skirtings and cut out & lift the rotted b/r & kitchen floor. Just screw any creaky/loose floorboards down, if any are badly damaged, replace them. as jord said this is the correct way and how building control insist it should be done, as it ties the floor joists together adding stability, you would only need expansion on floating floors, if you added another acoustically insulated chipboard floor ontop if the structural chipboard. Volume. Suitable for Handheld Saws. Awkward process. 99 Inc Vat. Competitor stocks Everbuild 503. [Please Help] Need to lift chipboard flooring to address pipes knocking Discussion in ' Plumbers' Talk ' started by RipGroove , May 30, 2016 . Thousands of products available. £5. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by westy,. £13. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. !! Active Member. Make sure that before the vinyl is fitted all screw/ nail holes are filled and all edges are flush and filled. Ask a question. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by David Prentice, May 29, 2019. The width including the tounge seems to be around 130mm. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > replacing chipboard floor. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. Laminate, engineered, solid or tiles worse. Lay 9mm sp101 ply, then 10mm or. your access problem should be dealt with by using "routabout"= jig for. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. When it comes to putting the floor back down make sure you have left the nails in the joists- most of them will have a small circle of the flooring around them and just lay board on top so it doesn't leave any holes. Chipboard Flooring. com. You will definitely need to overboard the chipboard as you can't (or shouldn't) tile directly onto it. in reality its more like 1 1/2. Insulate between joists with rigged kingspan. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. 5. 2m² (894VK) compare. £15. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Our carpenter has suggested that it may make sense to do this throughout the property. Another solution I found was some foil insulation which state that the product can be laid over the top of the floorboards and then sealed around the perimeter of the room with foil tape and then lay the finished floor over the top of this. Glue is cheap enough. There's no easy way to achieve what you want but if you're steadfast then you can prime the chipboard with SBR and try a self levelling compound suitable for going over chipboard, similarly glue and screw 9mm plywood. I will need to pull up a number of the other floorboards in order to reroute the waste pipes and water pipes anyway. hamster New Member. Returns Policy. #3. So had battons fitted to the underside of the joists to support 100m celotex, then used aluminium spreader plates to take the pipes, and 18mm t&g chipboard over the top secured to joists. The tiles themselves should be ok if movement is only slight. you then have to put noggins (pieces of 3 0r 4x2)under the cuts and half the thickness sticking out to support new piece as well. It is a ground floor, and there is 250mm of fibreglass insulation suspended between the joists. Discussion in 'Tilers' Talk' started by Flash_uk, Jun 11, 2012. Product Type. 6 size screws. Concrete kitchen floor might only need SLC over the concrete. 5 times thickness of sub floor i. For External Use. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. 6mm. £2. The Ex-Kitchen Fitter New Member. It appears that there was a substance between them but this just chips away now, the apartment block was built about 12 years ago. also, is it possible to fit the insulation from underneath?Screwfix Community Forum. thatching. It had been a single storey extension with a flat roof, that later had a second floor built. I would glue and screw using Gorilla glue and screws that are long enough that they just don't protrude below. I have uploaded photos and a wider photo for a better perspective. Click & Collect. #5. This type of heating system means no wall mounted variants are needed which gives greater flexibility when designing a room. Water seeped down a rising pipe at the wall under the cork-tiled, T & G chipboard floor, the waterproof membrane and the 1" insulation (jablite type) onto the screed. Set the blade depth to just less than the thickness of the board and slice down the flooring above two adjacent joists just to the inside of the nail line. So ive decided against this solution. If you're just missing the joist either nail a piece of timber on to catch the end of the board, or cut it back to rest halfway on the joist, a butt joint in this scenario won't matter. . You don't need any noggins on the long joints, but where the ends of boards meet in a gap between joists it's best to put a noggin to support the joint. Another option is to drill a 17mm hole down into the floor, hitting a joist if possible and up into the newel then screw a 19mm length of stud down into the floor then screw the newel down onto it. fortnite custom parkour maps THIS ENTIRE MINECRAFT. what ever the thickness of the item being secured say 10mm, then multiply it by 3. This bowing is visible under the carpet and as I am replacing the carpet & underlay I wondered what the. Choose one of those and it will do it’s job over the subfloor, under the finish floor. Reisser screws and a good quality exterior pva lashed on. For example, room is 4m long exactly (4000mm). If you wish to only remove part of a sheet you could try blade of saw to where it touches a joist and mark each side on floor with pencil. Again, my garage floor. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Gerry Built, Dec 4, 2007 . I am doing the remedial work myself under insurance. Screwfix Community Forum. I've been told I don't need to ensure the short edge joins are on the joist as the glued edge is probably stronger than the board, is this billy-bulls**t or true. #4. Hi all After some advice. 2. TS Thread System Offers a Single & Twin Thread in One, Gripping Fast with a Firm Fix. SKU: 36HB001. 99 Inc Vat. Arrange the boards so that when you get to the end of the run the offcut can be used to start the next run aiming for a staggered joint of at least 300mm. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. 2. This is a job for a circular saw. Replacing all of the boards is expensive and probably a waste of money. Glue the tongue and grooves too. Hi I've removed an old bathroom suite as the chipboard floor got water. You will only stop the squeaks with screws and glue, laying something on top will not work. Google time for you. 8 2. Order JG Speedfit JGUFHEDGE Edge Insulation Roll 150mm x 25m at Screwfix. Buy Flooring Adhesives at Screwfix. As for fixing boards down it's the same again. Can I lay ceramic floor tiles directly onto a new chipboard floor or does it need sealing? These are standard 30x30 tiles - what type of adhesive and grout should I use? Thanks. Screwfix Community Forum. You would need to coat it in pva. There can be many uses for chipboard screws, particularly in wood projects such as furniture assembly, shelving, flooring, etc. Recently im faced with the task of trying to take up more and more chipboard flooring and was thinking of investing in a good nail puller to remove the recessed nails ? Click to expand. It would be impossible to. com. JustPhil Active Member. com. Total Product Weight. Fit and screw down, then when you need access, unscrew the boards and lift out. The benefit from installing a castor is increased portability of heavy loads, greater safety and improved productivity. 1-8 mm. Click & Collect. Jord86, Nov 16, 2017. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Tabs, Jan 24, 2021. #6. Kingscurate, Weetabix and. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard ! Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Vic_39, Apr 20, 2022. 5m rolls available. Vin, May 16, 2020. 2. . £40. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard flooring. Google time for you. Jord86, Jul. 1) rout a slot along the cut edge (s) and glue in a strip of ply to act as a tongue, then rout a corresponding slot lengthwise along the board to fit at 90 degrees after having cut off the profile that it comes with. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Tilers' Talk > Tiling over chipboard floor. electrics duplexed in every house. KIAB Super Member. Go to My Project List Continue Shopping. Lifted the floorboards in the room above (no trouble) only to find a chipboard floor. electric cables ,water pipes etc are never far away. Plenty glue on the t&g and I personally glue to the joists as well. Selex Structural Plywood B/C Grade Tongue and Grooved 2425mm x 600mm. , Aug 21, 2005. Recently tiles are coming loose and grout has cracked around most. £39. If however the rip ended up at 100mm for example, it would. Cheapest way to board it out would probably be shiplap surely. £25. terrymac , Sep 24, 2020I will been doing some T&G Chipboard in our bedroom. Fork lift or adequate manual labour is required to unload. Make sure that the screws have at least 18mm of unthreaded shaft so they can pull the ply down to the chipboard. It’s a timber floor (t+g chipboard) so I’m going to put down the 6mm backer boards. Use spax 60mm chipboard screws, 3 per joist per board. 99 Inc Vat. It was nailed down and I added 40mm screws when I moved in (all I had under lockdown). Use a tape measure to 'dip' the dimension from the string line to the floor level at mid span. 16N/m2K or the equivalent of 270mm of mineral wool/quilt insulation (the most common method of insulating a loft). rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. Some people recommend no. archie1966 New Member. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Vijay80, Aug 2, 2019 . Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. Screw the ply down at 150mm centres, taking care that the screws don't penetrate the existing chipboard floor. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > chipboard floating floor. #4. Gadge New Member. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Thread Void between floor at new extension. Add for Delivery. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. VAT. Deleted member 11267 Guest. Often used as flooring instead of timber (which is much more expensive). 3) 18mm chipboard + 5. By where the sink was there has Obviously been a leak over the years which Has made the chipboard like a sponge! I am going to cut this out with a circular saw set to the depth of the boards and replace but not sure of how far I need to go. take up floor. Adaptor & Fixing Pin Connection. 4 they will be tongue and grooved ) and should be glued(pva) to the joists and at the tongues, and fixed with screws front and centre of the boards, if this has not happened you'll need. Jord86 Screwfix Select. (You may need to cut away some of the insulation to make room for the wood. Heat is circulated consistently and keeps floors warm underfoot. The entire surface of the floor is 17m x 7m so quite large. The 2-3mm gap from the saw should be enough to get a chisel in and lever them up. Prefabricated roofs brought to site on a lorry. My builder wants to glue 22mm chipboard and make a floating floor straight on top of insulation in a garage conversion, after levelling the floor with a screed. note where all pipes and cables are and fit new flooring with. I would either overboard it with (providing its solid with minimum movement) 6 to 12mm wbp ply or i would rip it up compleatly and put 25mm wbp ply straight over the joists. 66 = 396mm. Inc. Delivery. Available in different variants, it is important that the right basecoat paint is chosen for the job. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. £15. £12. Single thread. Go for it!Also the room smells damp but not had heating in this room and no air vents under flooring. 1) Make sure 100% level. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. Just lay the cut end next to the wall and continue to lay. Floor-Tite Flooring Screws have been developed to meet the needs of fibre and wooden floor boarding. Sold & shipped by B&Q. Some people recommend no. if you use a circular saw set the blade depth correctly and you won’t hit pipes or cables. 66 rows. Pieces in Pack/Case. You have no idea what the profile of P4 flooring chipboard looks like, and have never laid a chipboard floor 2. Hence creating an airtight space. Screw down as you suggested, and as Sinewave has mentioned. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in. Michal Kloch, Nov 21, 2017. The failure is due to movement. 8 or no. We live in a Taylor build Wimpey new build, which makes loud cracking noises in the rooms directly underneath when someone walks around the rooms upstairs. Its a 1995 build and all the downstairs floor is 25mm polystyrene with chipboard floating on it. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self. 2. 60 days free credit available. For example, a 2mm Polyfoam Underlay is recommended for a chipboard sub-floor but is barely going to provide any sound deadening and has no. Volume. 1) You have a level floor, whether it be chipboard or any other base. For it to be thermally effective, mineral wool insulation needs to be at the government recommended depth of 270mm. The joists are 8" x 2", 450mm apart and span about 3m. com. Plan was: Put in several air vents. A vapour barrier would be wise, plenty of good quality flooring underlays for engineered/laminate have a vapour barrier built in, usually in the form of metal foil. The house was built in around the 1930s. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. They are rated C24. Some of my floorboards need replacing but I am struggling to find something similar. MDF-Tite MDF Screws are designed to eliminate blistering when installing MDF boards, fibre boards and chipboard flooring. Click & collect in as little as 1 minute. We had a slow water leak behind the sink. As Willy said, if you have to go underneath at anytime you are still going to have to cut the board somewhere as they are all interlocked and won't lift without making a cut. 5m. Keep scraping the excess from the boards around the joints, and pile up over each seam. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range, and hence chipboard. Plywood. Buy OSB at B&Q - Order online or check stock in store. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. Recently im faced with the task of trying to take up more and more chipboard flooring and was thinking of investing in a good nail puller to remove the recessed nails ? Click to expand. Patented ground serrations for quick penetration. Cutting Width (Kerf): 1. if the subfloor is sound, lay 4mm ply over it with 1". 5mm x 45mm 200 Pack (85991) (91) compare. Net-Coat Yellow-Plated. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by hamster, Jun 28, 2004. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. By insulating your loft or roof you'll effectively reduce heat loss. Also, in most scenarios can you cut around the edges of a chipboard floor room , add noggins to joists and butt. This item is only available for purchase in store or by calling 0300 303 4481. "dont forget to switch your heating off as the glue will go off too quick". if you turn the boards upside down (ie with the writing on top ) you will end up with something like a 30mm gap between the wall and the top surface of the board. Look for ones with a valve for easier breathing. Tri-Lock threadform and shank incorporate the benefits of a single coarse thread with a twin thread start. Small Head Fixes Flush for an Almost Hidden Finish. Joists are at 600mm, T&G chipboard 22mm @ 600mmX3000mm. Chippy John New Member. Everywhere I wanted access as well as lifting the boards, I had to hack through the old bitumen impregnated chipboard roof panel as well. com. . I’m starting from the smallest bedroom. Got to be careful not to cut lower than chipboard depth to cut joists or pipes, wires, etc. 7mm. Buy Wood Filler at Screwfix. Delivery Next day available. Primer Paints.